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Local Road Safety Training w/FHWA - March 3, 2021 - Shared screen with speaker view
Tracy Coan
19:07
Good morning! Please take a moment and respond to the poll.
Tracy Coan
19:23
We will begin promptly today at 8:30AM
Tracy Coan
21:21
Good morning, everyone!
Tracy Coan
24:18
Hello, we will begin at 8:30AM, please take a moment to weigh-in on the poll
Tracy Coan
26:43
Good morning!
Steve Pyburn
26:56
FHWA Proven Safety Countermeasureshttps://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/provencountermeasures/
Tracy Coan
27:36
Hello, welcome!
Tracy Coan
27:53
Please take a moment to answer the poll
Denice Hutten
28:43
Municipal Project Management (CIP)
Tracy Coan
29:01
Poll responses (Other): I'm with a surveying and mapping consultant (we do both design and construction) and am interested in safety information related to highway/roadside work in general.
Tracy Coan
29:23
Poll Response - I work in Encroachments
Tracy Coan
32:50
Good morning, welcome!
Tracy Coan
35:12
Please take a moment to answer the poll. Thank you
Tracy Coan
37:00
Good morning! Welcome
Tracy Coan
38:11
I have placed the agenda here for you all
Zack Azzari
38:49
I am not sure the PP Presentation(s) were emailed to participants. Please send us a link to download and print. Thank you, Zack
Tracy Coan
38:53
You w ill find the training presentations here: Portal URL -- https://apps.cce.csus.edu/portal/?forumID=6246
Aruna Bodduna
41:09
are these raw crash numbers or per capita on how many people walk/bike in these states?
diana shu
44:20
What type of intersections have the highest collision?
Tracy Coan
44:24
You will find the training materials at this Portal URL -- https://apps.cce.csus.edu/portal/?forumID=6246
Hillary Isebrands
46:47
Link to FHWA Safe System Approach - https://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/zerodeaths/zero_deaths_vision.cfm
Christopher Rider
50:34
Can you share the video url so we can watch during the break?
Tim Snellings
50:44
There is a checkbox on the lower left of Zoom to share sound that needs to be checked when you share your screen for the sound to come through on a shared video
Tracy Coan
51:27
Thanks, everyone for the help on the sound
Kathryn Kleinschmidt
55:00
I wonder the effects with COVID in regards to bicycle and pedestrian collision trends. Vehicle trips were reduced but alternate modes might have increased. Not sure if you have 2020 data yet.
Tracy Coan
59:56
@Diana Shu, one older study (2009) found intersections controlled by regulatory signs had a higher number of fatalities than signals and intersections with no controls.
Steve Pyburn
01:02:34
2020 data is not available yet, and it may prove to be an anomaly. Early data shows lower VMT bur higher speeds in some areas, and higher bike activity.
Steve Pyburn
01:02:44
Only 8 known ped and bike fatalities in the US at roundabouts. Total for all years!
diana shu
01:04:02
When would we not use a raised crosswalk? Speed? visibility? Other?
Ria Lo
01:04:43
Why were the first three not proven countermeasures?
Steve Pyburn
01:05:43
Raised crosswalks are typically installed on2-lane or 3-lane roads with speed limits of30 mph or less and annual average dailytraffc (AADT) below about 9,000. Raisedcrossings should generally be avoided ontruck routes, emergency routes, and arterialstreets. https://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/ped_bike/step/docs/techSheet_RaisedCW2018.pdf
Tracy Coan
01:09:13
For you convenience, the presentation PowerPoints and agenda can be found here:Portal URL -- https://apps.cce.csus.edu/portal/?forumID=6246
Matthew Bomberg
01:10:46
Is there any research into the pros/cons/benefits/drawbacks of placing push buttons in a median island when combining an RRFB and median refuge island?
Aruna Bodduna
01:11:49
RRFBs are said to have high compliance, why is it NOT considered a proven safety countermeasure
Hillary Isebrands
01:14:22
FHWA has featured many of these strategies under the Every Day Counts - Safe Transportation for Every Pedestrian (STEP) initiative - more information on these 7 strategies can be found at this link. https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/innovation/everydaycounts/edc_5/step2.cfm Additionally, FHWA will be releasing an update to the Proven Safety Countermeasures in the very near future!
Steve Pyburn
01:15:51
PPBs would typically be used on a median of a road where the pedestrian mill not have enough time to cross the whole street. Depending on the situation, it may be beneficial to have a button in an island to extend the flashing time of an RRFB. Not sure that topic has come up before. That is a great question for the ITE forum.
Colin Clarke
01:16:16
Thank you so much; this is helpful! Is "proven safety countermeasure" confusing to the general public? a measure counter to safety: seems to have internal conflict within the term - negating itself? Is it OK locally to use "Safe Systems Action Toolbox" instead? Are there other alternative phrases?
Steve Pyburn
01:16:39
FHWA Proven Safety Countermeasureshttps://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/provencountermeasures/NHTSA Data Visualization Toolhttps://explore.dot.gov/views/DV_FARS_PD/Home?:iid=1&:isGuestRedirectFromVizportal=y&:embed=ySafe Transportation for Every Pedestrian (STEP)https://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/ped_bike/step/resources/STEP Guide for Improving Pedestrian Safety at Uncontrolled Crossing Locationshttps://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/ped_bike/step/docs/STEP_Guide_for_Improving_Ped_Safety_at_Unsig_Loc_3-2018_07_17-508compliant.pdfBikeway Selection Guidehttps://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/ped_bike/tools_solve/docs/fhwasa18077.pdfRoad Diet Informational Guidehttps://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/road_diets/guidance/info_guide/
Ken Kochevar
01:16:46
Ria, Every 3 - 4 years since 2008, FHWA convenes to discuss what countermeasures should be listed as "proven safety countermeasures". Currently, we are going through the 4th iteration. Another 7 should be announced soon. When the committee is deciding which ones should be elevated to this level, we look a lot at studies that have been done that show very good results in regards to CRFs. We also factor in costs to implement and how many states or locals are implementing the countermeasure. It is not an exact science. We can't include everything or nothing would be a high priority or PSCs. If the first three show promise, they would definitely be discussed. Stay tuned. You may see some of these in the next rollout.
Steve Pyburn
01:17:58
La Jolla Boulevard case study for road diet that included roundabouts to reduce delay and improve safety. https://www.pps.org/article/road-diet-la-jolla-a-jewel-of-a-street
Blake Kloczl
01:18:13
Why has FHWA not considered dynamically adjusting crossing time using microwave sensors for roadways?
Tracy Coan
01:18:44
You may come off mute and ask your question.
Blake Kloczl
01:20:00
Thank you
Hillary Isebrands
01:21:46
Thanks Colin - as a follow up to Steve's comments - we also use the term "Solution" and "Strategy." You will see this when I speak this afternoon on LRSPs.
Ofurhe Igbinedion
01:22:58
I think it's 'counter' to collisions, right?
Colin Clarke
01:23:06
Yes, helps - Thank you!
Ofurhe Igbinedion
01:24:47
Is there evidence the RRFBs cause more of the crashes Maria Bhatti described where the second car goes around because they don't see why the first car stopped?
Julia Malmo-Laycock, San Mateo County
01:25:53
Maria thank you for the presentation - extremely informative!
Lynne Filson
01:26:12
Have you had any liability issues with putting in one of these
Lynne Filson
01:26:34
counter measures at one location and there was a ped accident at another location
Tim Snellings
01:27:52
Besides shoulder widening, what are some common Ped/Bike countermeasures you see applied on rural roads?
Ria Lo
01:28:11
Given the effects of speed, does FHWA have a perspective on the 85%ile rule?
Julia Malmo-Laycock, San Mateo County
01:28:34
+1 to Ria's question
Steve Pyburn
01:29:01
The purpose of RRFB is to increase awareness by drivers that there are pedestrians crossing the street, especially with ped crossing signs and RRFBs on both sides of the street.
Alejandra Belalcazar
01:29:17
+1 to Tim's question
Cory Peterson
01:30:55
I would also like to know more about ped/bike countermeasures in rural areas as asked above
Maria Bhatti
01:31:21
Thanks Julia. I am glad it was helpful.
Colin Clarke
01:32:24
Does a City Council have a legal right to modify or reject a staff recommendation to increase a posted speed limit based on an 85th-percentile study analyzing observed speeds?
Lynne Filson
01:32:27
Thank you.
Mike Bagheri
01:32:46
road diets also lower vehicular speeds reducing the severity of peds injures!
Hillary Isebrands
01:33:00
@Diana Shu - I am not sure what 2009 study you are referring to regarding intersection safety; however, two-way stop control, all-way stop control, signals (with varying phasing and design options) and roundabouts (both single lane and multi-lane) all have unique crash reduction factors. Some additional sources of research/crash reduction factors in this area are included in the Highway Safety Manual, NCHRP Report 572, NCHRP Report 888, as well as publications and resources found at our FHWA intersection webpage - https://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/intersection/. Additionally, Caltrans has intersection safety rate groups for B/C analysis. Ivy and Steve are going to speak more to intersection safety later this morning.
Joel Slavit
01:33:19
I understand multi-lane roundabouts can be more stressful to bicyclists than single lane roundabouts. Are there specific treatments you'd recommend for multi-lane roundabouts that are different than single lane roundabouts?
Robert Peterson
01:34:43
Concerning road diets, we have had some safety projects in past cycles where there was pushback from the community that was going to be affected by this change and the safety project had to be canceled. So before going forward with the roadway reconfiguration(road diets), there may be a need to do some public outreach before an application gets submitted.
Ben Frazier
01:34:45
FHWA's Small Town and Rural Multimodal Networks Guide has a lot of good information on that topic - https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/environment/bicycle_pedestrian/publications/small_towns/page00.cfm
Tim Snellings
01:34:50
Great suggestions...on rural, thanks
Mike Bagheri
01:36:21
in Europe most ped xings are away from the intersections that improves line of sight similar to roundabout xings. why this practice is not implemented in US?
Ofurhe Igbinedion
01:36:56
Thanks for the presentation!
Zack Azzari
01:36:57
Thanks
Tracy Coan
01:51:39
YouTube Safe Systems Approach.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MigxAs0KjBw
diana shu
01:52:51
Thank you!
Hillary Isebrands
01:52:58
@JoelSlavit: regarding bicyclists at multi-lane roundabouts. NCHRP 672 Roundabouts: An Information Guide (Chapter 6, Exhibit 6-67) does provide general guidance for treatments of bike lanes/shoulders in advance of multi-lane roundabouts. Bicyclists have the option to move from the bike lane/shoulder/outside lane and take the desired approach lane or leave the roadway and navigate the intersection on a multi-use path/sidewalk. There is a range of distances provided for design consideration for a bicyclist to safely transition to one of these options (i.e. distance to change lanes, separation between bike ramp and crosswalk). The skill level of the bicyclist may determine which option they choose to traverse the roundabout. For multi-lane roundabouts it is ideal to provide both options to the user. Education of roundabouts in the community is always important as part of implementation, particularly if roundabouts are not common in your area. If you have a more specific question or example, please contact us.
Steve Pyburn
02:05:46
Justin, I am not aware of such feedback. I do know the flash rates of RRFBs are very specified in the MUTCD and are based on human factors research. I am familiar with the flashing STOP signs in Rocklin on Blue Oaks Boulevard but am not aware of how the flash rate for those were developed. I do think your STOP signs are effective in getting driver’s attention.
Ken Kochevar
02:06:44
HFST, when using the fully automated method, should last between 8 - 10 years.
Sarah Kolarik
02:08:49
Are there any best practices or use cases for using rumble strips or raised pavement markers adjacent to bicycle lanes (Class II or IV)?
Ken Kochevar
02:08:59
Recommend staying away from placing HFST by hand when possible unless a very small area (< 200 sq yds). Manual placement leads to quality issues.
Mario Barragan
02:09:16
Is there a limit on the rumble strips ?
Ying Smith
02:09:38
Does high friction surface treatment apply to bicycle lanes? Wet pavement is a concern for bicyclists as well.
Gerardo Rodriguez
02:09:56
Where are these rumble strips mainly recommeneded within the roadway network?
Reuel Brady
02:10:46
Are rumble strips a problem for bicyclist?
Gerardo Rodriguez
02:12:04
How do we incorporate these rumble strips with like lane reductions or as Reuel Brady mentioned above?
Tracy Coan
02:13:11
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Jesse Peoples
02:14:39
Do you see Caltrans developing guidelines for transverse rumble strips (for example to supplement warning signs on higher speed roadways)? So far they only have standards for temporary transverse rumble strips for construction traffic control.
Steve Pyburn
02:15:21
Reuel, I can answer as a cyclist. Yes, rumble strips can be a pain for cyclists. However, the revised Caltrans guidelines include breaks in the rumble strip to allow bicyclists to cross. If a rumble strip keeps a driver from straying onto the shoulder where bikes and peds may be, then that makes the inconvenience worth it.
Kathy Kleinschmidt
02:15:59
Feedback from CHP in Modoc County was he noticed braking after vehicles transitioned from HFST to regular pavement and asked that a better transition be provided to help with drivers reaction to the different pavement (feel and additional noise with the friction treatment).
Bjorn Griepenburg
02:20:36
Re: Steve's note above, yes, rumble strips can help protect people on bikes, but it's essential that shoulders be kept clear of debris or other obstructions so that bicyclists don't have to abruptly exit the lane along stretches with rumble strips. They're extremely jarring to ride over.
Bjorn Griepenburg
02:21:58
(Speaking from experience having ridden on SR-12 between Santa Rosa and Sonoma plenty of times -- there are some sections where the shoulder narrows and the rumble strips create a real challenge)
Ken Kochevar
02:25:19
Moon, We are looking at the edge of paved shoulder as there shouldn't be items within the shoulder.
Ken Kochevar
02:26:32
Ying, We have seen HFST used on bicycle lanes, but it is limited. More of this is colored pavements to delineate the bike lane.
WooJae Kim
02:26:40
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Ken Kochevar
02:27:00
Kathy,
Ken Kochevar
02:28:48
Caltrans is looking at continuous friction measurement equipment which will tell us exactly where to start and stop the HFST. Hopefully this will prevent issues in the transition. This is the first I've heard of noise and feel from the driver. Thanks-
Su Shu
02:28:48
Are there any approved cable barrier types by Caltrans? What is the typical situation for cable barrier application? steep shoulder?
Tracy Coan
02:30:07
Virtual Booth: https://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/local_rural/tribal/Local_Rural_Local_Road_Virtual_Trade_Show.pdf
Tracy Coan
02:33:06
Resources: https://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/roadway_dept/
Julia Malmo-Laycock, San Mateo County
02:35:37
Thanks very much Ken and Robert for the presentation. Is there a cost associated with the more specific, in-person training opportunities you mentioned are available?
Ken Kochevar
02:38:18
Julia, No cost to us. We just need to find a time and place if out of COVID. Please contact us if interested. BTW, I will be retiring May 31st so you need to hurry if you want me involved.
Cory Peterson
02:39:35
Thanks for the info on HFST, especially the Del Norte County case study. Are there any good case studies or best practice uses for HFST in urban/suburban areas maybe not on curves? (ie. intersections)
Julia Malmo-Laycock, San Mateo County
02:39:39
Thanks Ken! Congrats on the upcoming retirement. Another question: I'm curious about whether you have any info about whether the number of fatality/ severe injury collisions are distributed different by race across the three topic areas being covered this morning
Tracy Coan
02:41:30
**BREAK** Please return at 10:47
Chanda Singh
02:44:04
Thanks for the presentation! I'm curious - has their been any research on whether vehicle speeds increase with the provision of larger clear zones?
Robert Peterson
02:45:25
For HFST in urban/suburban areas, many agencies are installing it on curves on urban roadways and approaching intersections, especially where posted speeds are 45 mph or higher. I know Caltrans D11, San Diego placed HFST at locations approaching signalized intersections on an expressway. Not sure the state route.
Steve Pyburn
02:47:44
While we wait, do any of you see a lot of resistance towards roundabouts? If so, what are the arguents against them?
Zack Azzari
02:48:40
Roundabouts work great in Europe and other countries.
Steve Pyburn
02:49:09
Proven Safety Countermeasureshttps://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/provencountermeasures/
Robert Peterson
02:49:36
Cable barriers have been typically installed at locations on freeways with wider medians, typically 45 feet or greater. Don't know of any cable barriers being installed on outside shoulders.
Steve Pyburn
02:50:08
FHWA Intersection Safety website https://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/intersection/
Steve Pyburn
02:58:27
All that energy has to go somewhere in a crash. People are not good at absorbing energy!
Steve Pyburn
03:00:16
In 2016, Caltrans did a before and after study of crashes of roundabouts on state state highways. At that time, they found a 100% reduction in Fatal and Serious Injury crashes and 67% reduction of total crashes.
Robert Ovadia
03:02:31
Where can we find guidance on minimum roundabout sizes in right-of-way constrained areas?
Ken Kochevar
03:02:47
As mentioned earlier on edge lines, when going from a 4" to a 6" edge line on a 2 lane rural road, yields a CRF of 17.5% for all severity crashes and a CRF of 36.5% for all F + I crashes per Park CMF ID 4736 and 4737. Please consider this countermeasure when restriping!
Theo Sanchez
03:04:16
Might be an ignorant question but is there any effort made to restrict ped movement within a roundabout to only a counter-clockwise direction? Many drivers going thru a roundabout are not focusing on what's happening to their right
Ken Kochevar
03:06:24
Chanda, I have not seen any studies on vehicle speeds increasing when there are larger CRZs, but that doesn't mean there aren't any. Intuition would tell me that when a driver can see what is around the corner versus not being able to see around the corner, that their speed probably would increase. That is why we have speed limits and advisory signs!
Steve Pyburn
03:07:15
NCHRP 672 has design guidelines. Other sources, like the Kansas Stat University Listserve also includes discussion on roundabout topics, including design advice. Here is the NCHRP report: https://mdotcf.state.mi.us/public/tands/Details_Web/nchrp_rpt_672-%20fed%20roundabout%20guide.pdf
Kathy Kleinschmidt
03:07:36
For pedestrians crossings at a roundabout I know there was push to have them controlled with a pedestrian hybrid beacon for the visually impaired. Is there any more updates on this. It would be very expensive to have those controls in place.
Steve Pyburn
03:08:44
Peds have a simpler task at roundabouts. They only have to look one way at a time for cars, cars are going slower, and there are fewer lanes to cross at a time. This helps them make better decision before crossing.
Jae Riddle
03:10:00
How will RCUT's influence goals toward reducing VMT? A left turn lane in the image provided appears to add 0.5 to 0.75 mile per vehicle
Sarah Kolarik
03:10:06
Are there any resources or best practices for installing mini roundabouts on neighborhood streets?
Hillary Isebrands
03:10:07
@Robert Ovadia - mini roundabouts (full mountable center islands) have a diameter range from 45-90ft. For single lane roundabouts (non-mountable center islands) the typical diameter range is from 90-180ft. We tend to refer to roundabouts in constrained environments "compact" roundabouts. Robert Peterson and CA LTAP are hosting a webinar on compact designs featuring Washentaw County, MI.
Chanda Singh
03:12:12
Are there any specific design considerations for roundabouts where there are disproportionate traffic volumes (e.g., major 25k v. intersecting minor street 5k)?
Raquel Mendez
03:12:59
probably it is a different topic from the safety presentation but I was wondering about speed humps or speed bumps. are they considered to be a counter measurement? Any study where can be found on the FHWA site and recommended by you to learn more about and able to educate public?
Steve Pyburn
03:13:08
Proven Safety Countermeasureshttps://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/provencountermeasures/FHWA Intersection Safety Case Studyhttps://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/intersection/innovative/roundabouts/case_studies/fhwasa09013/Guidelines for Timing Yellow and All-Red Intervals at Signalized Intersections (NCHRP Report 731)http://www.trb.org/Publications/Blurbs/168017.aspxFHWA Traffic Signal Timing Manualhttps://ops.fhwa.dot.gov/publications/fhwahop08024/chapter4.htm#4.5Restricted Crossing U-Turn Intersectionhttps://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/intersection/alter_design/pdf/fhwasa14070_rcut_infoguide.pdfFHWA Safety websitehttps://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/
Hillary Isebrands
03:13:19
@SarahKolarik - Mini roundabouts and compact roundabouts are the most common in lower speed neighborhood environments. FHWA has guidance on mini roundabouts as well as using NCHRP 672 (Roundabouts Informational Guide) and focusing on the lower range of the diameters. There are examples on both the FHWA website and in NCHRP 672. - https://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/intersection/innovative/roundabouts/
Cory Peterson
03:13:31
Can the link to the video at the beginning of this section on intersections also be shared?
Tracy Coan
03:14:00
Principles of Intersection Safetyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B8gmCpMXMw
Thien Pham - County of Santa Clara
03:14:03
Going back to using microwave sensors at signalized crosswalks to dynamically adjust pedestrian crossing times, the sensors would be used to provide dynamic crossing time extensions, in addition to the required clearance times, as demonstrated by on going efforts in Santa Clara County at expressway and non-expressway signalized intersections.
Jae Riddle
03:14:41
Thank you
Thien Pham - County of Santa Clara
03:16:13
A demo video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO5uEoYD_Eg&feature=youtu.be
Hillary Isebrands
03:18:52
@KathyK - there are several treatments that have been studied at multi-lane roundabouts for pedestrians related to accessibility. Those include Pedestrian Hybrid Beacons, RRFBs, raised crosswalks. Studies such as NCHRP 674, NCHRP 834, FHWA TOPR34 - https://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/intersection/innovative/roundabouts/docs/fhwasa15069.pdf
Hillary Isebrands
03:20:59
FHWA Mini roundabout summary - https://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/intersection/innovative/roundabouts/fhwasa10007/fhwasa10007.pdf
Lynne Filson
03:21:57
What is a good document to look at for spacing of speed humps?
Hillary Isebrands
03:22:59
2019 Mini Roundabout Symposium (go to the bottom of the page for links to presentations) - http://ctt.nonprofitsoapbox.com/2019miniroundaboutsymposium
George White
03:23:15
for roundabout questions to the listserv you can email your questions to ROUNDABOUTS@LISTSERV.KSU.EDU
John Everett
03:23:58
Has anyone successfully installed a multilane roundabout in your jurisdiction. I've seemed them used in Europe/asia. but not so much here in CA.
Colin Clarke
03:24:46
Long Beach has a multi-lane roundabout
Christopher Rider
03:25:11
Los Angeles has one on Riverside Drive.
John Everett
03:26:18
Thanks, cross streets are helpful.
Christopher Rider
03:26:18
https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/riverside-roundabout We have not yet been successful at removing a signal and replacing it with a roundabout.
Hillary Isebrands
03:26:42
Here is a link to a roundabout database if you are interested - https://roundabouts.kittelson.com/ (It also has traffic circles and rotarys in the database)
Ofurhe Igbinedion
03:27:45
Will the resource links from the first presentation be posted?
Julia Malmo-Laycock, San Mateo County
03:27:56
Burlingame, CA (in San Mateo County) implemented a roundabout in 2018: https://www.burlingame.org/business_detail_T54_R40.php
Colin Clarke
03:28:03
Does FHWA have baseline collision data and guidance on how local agencies can encourage or require CIDs/HOAs to implement strategies to reduce the number of severe injuries (and close-calls) on thousands of miles of privately owned & maintained streets within community-interest-developments? (commonly known as homeowners associations/HOAs, which have jurisdictional control over 20% of Californians' home neighborhoods (14.1 million residents) throughout California). 60-80% of new construction is in an HOA.
Justin Nartker-City of Rocklin
03:28:18
Rocklin, CA has to two multilane roundabouts on Rocklin Road, with another one about to go out to bid.
Ofurhe Igbinedion
03:28:38
With all this data-driven anti-collision funding and improvements, why do we think collisions have been increasing?
Zack Azzari
04:35:23
Are there any available California Roundabout case studies, you can share with us?
Frances Neade
04:37:32
Do the local road safety plans need to be adopted by our board of supervisors?
Robert Peterson
04:40:43
Yes, we highly recommend having your Board of Supervisor or City Council approve / adopt the plan.
Ken Kochevar
04:40:59
Frances, Yes, that is our goal, that a Board approves your Plan so there is buy-in from all above.
Tracy Coan
04:45:18
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Lisa Foster
04:46:36
City of Alameda passed a Vision Zero policy and the Action Plan is in progress. Resources here: https://www.AlamedaCA.gov/VisionZero
Kathy Kleinschmidt
04:48:00
GHD is working on several Local Road Safety Plans. We have one adopted (Shasta Lake), a draft that is on a website for public comment, and several other in the beginning to mid stages. I really enjoy this process. Also, wanted to note we are complimenting CA SHSP in using the 5-E's (engineering, education, enforcement, emergency response, and emerging technologies).
Ken Kochevar
04:49:07
Thanks Kathy. Glad to hear you are incorporating the 5 Es!
Kathy Kleinschmidt
04:51:11
Here is the link for the Shasta Lake LRSP
Kathy Kleinschmidt
04:51:12
https://www.cityofshastalake.org/DocumentCenter/View/2889/Final-Shasta-Lake-LRSP---w-Appendices
Tim Snellings
04:59:45
Does anyone have a simple RFP/RFQ for a LRSP?
Lee Reis
05:02:00
@Tim - I just sent out two RFPs for LRSPs
Kathryn Kleinschmidt
05:02:29
Here is a link to a public facing website used for community engagement for City of Waterford's LRSP (also developed by GHD)https://lrsp.mysocialpinpoint.com/waterford/lrsp
Aruna Bodduna
05:04:11
How often does LRSP needs to be updated?
Aruna Bodduna
05:05:02
The reason I ask is if Federal guidelines on proven countermeasures are being updated every few years, is there also a need to update/revise LRSP as needed
Kathy Kleinschmidt
05:05:54
Great question. Our approach has been the agencies preference but most our a formal update every 5 years but this is a living document that can be updated as needed.
Ken Kochevar
05:07:35
Aruna, Good question. We have discussed this and there is no exact timeline, but we are looking at a 5 yr. max. which mirrors the SHSP update. Most definitely if you see new countermeasures or issues arise, you can modify this at any time. This should be a living document.
Erika McLitus
05:12:23
My organization is looking at doing a countywide safety plan with LRSPs for each jurisdiction (7 cities pooling resources). Recently, we've had a few stakeholders question whether or not we would be better served by Vision Zero Action Plans instead of LRSPs. What are the primary differences in these approaches?
Aruna Bodduna
05:12:32
do you have any suggestions on gathering "near miss" data?
Christopher Rider
05:14:55
In the aggregate it's hard, at a spot location I've been trying to get a contract with microtraffic who does video analytics for near miss. There's a few other companies doing that as well.
Ken Kochevar
05:16:33
Erika, Need to let Hillary and Robert give their take on this, but with my limited involvement in both, the VZ AP seems to focus more on speed and in urbanized areas. I'm more familiar with LRSPs being in rural areas, but know they are developed in urbanized areas too. Both are acceptable to meet the requirements of applying for HSIP funds.
Tracy Coan
05:16:43
https://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/LRSPDIY/
Reuel Brady
05:16:55
Here is the link to Marin County's LRSP
Reuel Brady
05:17:06
https://www.marincounty.org/depts/pw/divisions/transportation/transportation/roadway-safety-review
Tracy Coan
05:17:11
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John Saelee
05:17:11
Is there a LRSP deadline for HSIP Cycle 11 applicants?
Lisa Foster
05:18:22
@Aruna, the City of Alameda worked with consultants to create an interactive map where people submitted near-miss experiences. But that was a one-time effort requiring $$. In the long run, we are considering re-working our SeeClickFix system to allow people to report near-miss experiences there.
Reuel Brady
05:19:16
Above is the attachment where Marin County is going with a towards zero program.
Aruna Bodduna
05:19:17
Thanks for your suggestion. We are in the process of developing LRSP for City of Mountain View.
Aruna Bodduna
05:19:32
@ Lisa, Thanks
Leah Greenblat
05:21:15
Can you provide more information on how Marin County found the data that showed they were experiencing more bicycle collisions then they thought?
Lisa Foster
05:23:56
+1 Leah's question re bicycle crash data. Sounds like they captured crashes that weren't in SWITRS. Hospital data? Surveys?
Ken Kochevar
05:25:39
Leah, I don't have that specific information, but feel free to contact Reuel from Marin at RBrady@marincounty.org to ask.
Robert Peterson
05:29:01
Cycle 11 call for projects will occur around March/April of 2022 and selecting applications for funding will be around Sept/Oct 2022. The approved plan will need to be in place when cycle 11 project selections are made. However, it would be good to see HSIP project applications from the plans, even though they may be draft but will be approved later in 2022.
Lisa Foster
05:29:35
Do LRSPs need to include specific projects? The plan my city is developing is designed to guide all our transportation efforts and doesn’t get into individual engineering projects. It has all the other elements you’ve mentioned (data, partners, locations in the form of high injury corridors and intersections, etc.)
Erika McLitus
05:30:28
County Transportation Agency working with suburban cities
Reuel Brady
05:30:59
Leah - Marin included a rep from the local hospital who was able to provide ER data for bike related injuries with the location.
Erika McLitus
05:31:50
Thank you for the great explanation, Hillary! That will help guide our decision
Julia Malmo-Laycock, San Mateo County
05:35:04
@Robert could you include the key dates in the chat here for posterity?
Kathy Kleinschmidt
05:40:06
I would agree. Potential projects are important to include in the plan. Also, we typically calculate preliminary benefit to cost ratios so you could see how competitive the project would be for HSIP. Of course this will have to be updated once the next cycle requirements are released.
Cory Peterson
05:44:26
Apologies if I missed this, but does Caltrans have specific guidance on the elements that are required to be in your LRSP? Most of what I have seen is primarily guidance
Robert Peterson
05:49:24
Cory, please go to our Local Assistance HSIP website for information. It is guidance(as intended) as we are following the FHWA LRSP information on what should be in the plan and we have provided links in our website. Please contact me, if you have further questions.
Cory Peterson
05:56:48
Thank you!
Tracy Coan
06:01:07
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Ofurhe Igbinedion (she/her)
06:17:55
Are there safety tips for doing audits where there isn't walking infrastructure (yet)? Especially at nighttime?
Zack Azzari
06:24:44
Hidden curve
Paul Pascoal
06:25:05
Sight lines.
Julia Malmo-Laycock, San Mateo County
06:25:08
Nighttime visibility
Paul Pascoal
06:25:21
Fix by putting up convex mirrors on the "T"
Su Shu
06:25:26
establish ROW control at sidestreet.
Mario Barragan
06:25:26
trim some of the mountain
Cory Peterson
06:25:33
No clear recovery zone
Ria Lo
06:25:35
No ped/bike space
Sai Midididdi
06:25:36
chevron signs
Joshua Rawley
06:25:39
Left Turn hazard.... need signalization/signage
Jamar Stamps
06:25:40
chevrons
Alan Velasquez
06:25:40
Ditto to the convex mirror
Mario Barragan
06:25:43
level out the road.
Gerardo Rodriguez
06:25:46
Chevron Signs
Su Shu
06:25:52
edgeline
Mario Barragan
06:25:55
Guard rail
Sai Midididdi
06:25:55
edgelines
Zack Azzari
06:26:03
One way street?
Gerardo Rodriguez
06:26:04
Reduction in speed sign
Craig Pyle
06:26:07
Acceleration lane from side road
Don Schmidt
06:26:07
merge lane
Jimmy Zhou
06:26:17
Advanced intersection sign
Sai Midididdi
06:26:18
Clear zone
Jamar Stamps
06:26:20
intersection approach warning for main road approach to side street intersection
Ria Lo
06:26:22
parallel trail for non-motorized
Mario Barragan
06:26:25
clear the side of the road
Hanieh Houshmandi
06:26:31
Retro reflective curve markers
Russell Chen
06:26:36
Advance curve warning sign
Gerardo Rodriguez
06:26:38
Roadway Centerline Delineators
anthony moore
06:26:45
Delineators
Zhong Tan
06:27:05
stop sign
Hanieh Houshmandi
06:27:07
Glass beads in the striping
Sai Midididdi
06:27:09
lighting improvement
Jae Riddle
06:27:18
shift the smaller road's connection point further toward the camera man
Moon Rana
06:27:20
flexible yellow channelizer on double yellow line
Craig Pyle
06:27:27
hill blocks view, T intersection pre-warning
Don Schmidt
06:27:28
change location of second roadway entrance
Russell Chen
06:27:36
Retroreflective pavement markers
Mario Barragan
06:27:48
Reduce Speed Limit
Tim Snellings
06:28:05
no-one mentioned a rural roundabout
Mike Bagheri
06:28:13
rumbles strips
Jae Riddle
06:31:54
Before the brainstorming session in the chat, Ofurhe asked, "Are there safety tips for doing audits where there isn't walking infrastructure (yet)? Especially at nighttime?"
Tracy Coan
06:32:58
**BREAK** Please return at 2:40pm
Theo Sanchez
06:33:29
needs curve ahead sign, add retroreflective markers, add stop ahead sign
Zack Azzari
06:33:47
Change the CL striping to no passing!
Thinh Le
06:34:23
edge line and chevron signs
Jamar Stamps
06:34:35
inadequate curve warning...esp. for night driving; no barrier for potential road departure, or refuge area
Jae Riddle
06:40:21
We're skipping so many RSA steps here
Jae Riddle
06:42:37
It was meant lightheartedly, that we in the chat were skipping steps
Jae Riddle
06:42:57
Apologies for the confusion
Zack Azzari
06:49:13
Waterville.
Mario Barragan
06:49:28
Watwer ville
Ofurhe Igbinedion (she/her)
06:49:28
Near August and Belfast
Ken Kochevar
07:02:25
Ofurhe, To respond to your previous question if I understand correctly, yes there are some safety tips. Since we are doing a Road "Safety" Audit, we want to make sure everyone is safe, especially doing the field review. There are two items I would mention. 1) The RSA team should stay inside there vehicles if there are unsafe conditions. You may have to drive through multiple times, but it is much safer. 2) When you do get out of your vehicle(s), make sure everyone is wearing a safety vest and hard hat. If possible, especially if near the roadway, have a lookout person for added safety. Hope this answers your question.
Ofurhe Igbinedion (she/her)
07:05:27
This is helpful, thank you!
Yovanni Viramontes
07:07:50
focus crash types tables is incomplete , on pdf provided.